diff --git a/docker/musician.Dockerfile b/docker/musician.Dockerfile
index b539024..f8c9f84 100644
--- a/docker/musician.Dockerfile
+++ b/docker/musician.Dockerfile
@@ -1,16 +1,19 @@
-# right now this is this is heavily inspired to git repo django-musician/Dockerfile
-#FROM python
-FROM debian:bullseye-slim
-
-RUN apt update &&  apt-get install -y \
-    python3-minimal \
-    python3-pip \
-    python3-dev \
-    python-is-python3
+FROM python:3.11.7-slim-bookworm
 
 WORKDIR /opt/musician
 
-RUN python3 -m pip install --upgrade pip
+# reduce size (python specifics) -> src https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74616667/removing-pip-cache-after-installing-dependencies-in-docker-image
+ENV PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=1
+# here document in dockerfile src https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40359282/launch-a-cat-command-unix-into-dockerfile
+RUN cat > /etc/pip.conf <<END
+[install]
+compile = no
+
+[global]
+no-cache-dir = True
+END
+
+RUN pip install --upgrade pip
 RUN pip install wheel
 
 COPY django-musician/requirements.txt .
diff --git a/docker/orchestra.Dockerfile b/docker/orchestra.Dockerfile
index c7232ee..6919183 100644
--- a/docker/orchestra.Dockerfile
+++ b/docker/orchestra.Dockerfile
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-FROM debian:bullseye-slim
+FROM python:3.9.18-slim-bullseye
 
 # based on https://github.com/glic3rinu/django-orchestra/blob/master/INSTALL.md
 # HOW TO RUN THIS
@@ -15,15 +15,10 @@ FROM debian:bullseye-slim
 
 #RUN apt-get update -y && apt-get upgrade -y
 
-RUN apt update &&  apt-get install -y \
-    python3-minimal \
-    python3-pip \
+RUN apt update &&  apt-get install --no-install-recommends -y \
     postgresql \
-    python3-psycopg2 \
     cron \
     nginx-full \
-    uwsgi \
-    uwsgi-plugin-python3 \
     sudo \
     ca-certificates \
     gettext \
@@ -36,13 +31,32 @@ RUN apt update &&  apt-get install -y \
     ssh \
     wkhtmltopdf \
     xvfb \
-    python3-minimal \
-    python3-dev \
     zlib1g-dev \
     libcrack2-dev \
     libxml2-dev \
     libxslt1-dev \
-    python-is-python3
+    && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
+
+# reduce size (python specifics) -> src https://stackoverflow.com/questions/74616667/removing-pip-cache-after-installing-dependencies-in-docker-image
+ENV PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE=1
+# here document in dockerfile src https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40359282/launch-a-cat-command-unix-into-dockerfile
+RUN cat > /etc/pip.conf <<END
+[install]
+compile = no
+
+[global]
+no-cache-dir = True
+END
+
+RUN pip install --upgrade pip
+
+# using binaries I avoid installing c compiler
+#   pyuwsgi -> src https://discuss.python.org/t/how-to-install-uwsgi-package-from-pypi/25082/5
+#   setuptools before installing requirements and the anyjson python package -> src https://stackoverflow.com/questions/72414481/error-in-anyjson-setup-command-use-2to3-is-invalid/74272722#74272722
+RUN pip install \
+    "setuptools<58.0.0" \
+    psycopg2-binary \
+    pyuwsgi
 
 # Clean up to reduce image size
 RUN apt clean && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
@@ -86,8 +100,8 @@ WORKDIR /opt/orchestra/
 COPY django-orchestra/requirements.txt .
 
 # TODO fix this better in the repo itself
-RUN pip3 install -r requirements.txt
-RUN pip3 install lxml==4.9.3
+RUN pip install -r requirements.txt
+RUN pip install lxml==4.9.3
 
 COPY django-orchestra .
 #RUN sed -i 's/lxml==3.3.5/lxml==4.9.3/' requirements.txt